Is the installation time when upgrading taking forever for everyone
Problem reported by Marc Frega - 3/30/2026 at 4:38 AM
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Is it just me? Im at about 20 mins waiting for the install to finish.  Im installing 9575 as recommended before 9581 on windows.
Derek Curtis Replied
Employee Post
Hey, Marc

We actually reached out to Advanced Installer about this, and they got back to us letting us know that a few people have reported issues. Apparently it "started out of the blue", but they're looking into it. 

If possible, I'd like one of our guys to open a ticket with you so we can maybe get some logs to pass along to Advanced Installer. 
Derek Curtis
CCO
SmarterTools Inc.
Marc Frega Replied
Sure, please do.

Marc
Derek Curtis Replied
Employee Post
Ticket started, Marc. What server OS is this one, just out of curiosity. Also, did you do an uninstall prior to the upgrade or just upgrade straight? 
Derek Curtis
CCO
SmarterTools Inc.
Chris Replied
There is a significant difference between Windows Server 2022 and 2025. No issues with 2022, it moves fast, typically a few minutes. 

2025 takes forever to install and uninstall. Took 7 minutes to install Build 9560.
Derek Curtis Replied
Employee Post
Yeah 2025 seems to be the difference for sure. 
Derek Curtis
CCO
SmarterTools Inc.
Sébastien Riccio Replied
Yep, seems to be related to win 2025. We migrated our SmarterTrack installation to a windows 2025 server and it was a pain, installer took more than 20 minutes to "Configure Windows Features".

Our SmarterMail is still on 2019 and doesn't seem to have the same slow installer issue.
Sébastien Riccio
System & Network Admin

Gabriele Maoret - SERSIS Replied
Windows 2025 is a pain... I have many customers with it (not for SmarterMail, but for other services) and averyone has something working half-bad...
Gabriele Maoret - Head of SysAdmins and CISO at SERSIS
Currently manages 6 SmarterMail installations (1 in the cloud for SERSIS which provides services to a few hundred third-party email domains + 5 on-premise for customers who prefer to have their mail server in-house)
Gabriele Maoret - SERSIS Replied
Windows 2025 is a pain... I have many customers who use it (not for SmarterMail, but for other services) and they all have something (who this and who that...) that doesn't work perfectly...
Gabriele Maoret - Head of SysAdmins and CISO at SERSIS
Currently manages 6 SmarterMail installations (1 in the cloud for SERSIS which provides services to a few hundred third-party email domains + 5 on-premise for customers who prefer to have their mail server in-house)
Chris Replied
I know Win2025 has very strict security protections in place, perhaps something is happening when Smartermail is installing Windows Services. Might want to look into that and figure out how to speed that up. I'm guessing it is a trust issue.

I've installed a small number of other software and it doesn't stall like this. 
J. LaDow Replied
Maybe it is an elevation / token switching issue - possibly right-click "Run as Administrator" when running the installer to see if behavior changes - even if logged in as one - as that is supposed to bypass/disable some of the UAC checks/switching -- 
MailEnable survivor / convert --
Chris Replied
Run as Administrator did not work. It takes 3 mins 30 secs to uninstall and 7 minutes to install.
John Quest Replied
Have you tried ProMon to see what is actually going on during that time?

It is a very useful tool originally developed by Sysinternals which was then bought by Microsoft.
Derek Curtis Replied
Employee Post
I'm not sure you guys need to duplicate efforts or troubleshoot it. As mentioned, we've received confirmation from Advanced Installer that it's an issue, they're aware of it, and they're working on a fix. 
Derek Curtis
CCO
SmarterTools Inc.
Tan Replied
Great, i thought i was the only only facing this problem few months back.  👍 
rick Replied
Is it required to uninstall SmarterMail first before upgrading?
I've only been disabling the AppPool in IIS and then running installer. Is that wrong?
Marc Frega Replied
in my case I did NOT uninstall first.  I am on Windows server 2025 and desktop experience.
Derek Curtis Replied
Employee Post
Technically you don't have to uninstall, but it's a best practice, and we do recommend you uninstall first. That said, I generally don't but then my server is not really used as a large scale production environment.
Derek Curtis
CCO
SmarterTools Inc.
Chris Replied
I always shut down IIS, stop smartermail service, uninstall, accept the prompt that says a reboot is required to release locked files. Reboot. Then reinstall. This is for our big production servers.

For our gateway servers that have no users, I don’t shut down IIS or stop smartermail. Straight uninstall, reboot, reinstall. 

I don’t remember why I do this instead of just running the installer over the existing one, I think I ran into problems in the past. Maybe I should try it again?
Sébastien Riccio Replied
I always shut down IIS, stop smartermail service, uninstall, accept the prompt that says a reboot is required to release locked files. Reboot. Then reinstall. This is for our big production servers.

For our gateway servers that have no users, I don’t shut down IIS or stop smartermail. Straight uninstall, reboot, reinstall. 

I don’t remember why I do this instead of just running the installer over the existing one, I think I ran into problems in the past. Maybe I should try it again?
The only thing you have to make sure is that mailservice.exe is not running anymore before upgrading.

The installer itself stop the service as part of the installation/upgrade procfess, but for highly active server the mailservice.exe used to take some minutes to be really fully stopped and disappear from running processes, even that the windows service manager report the service as stopped.

I had verry shitty cases where the mailservice.exe was still not completly stopped and the installer finished the upgrade and started the service again, which resulted in two mailservices.exe running at the same time, causing ports binding errors and file corruptions as two processes were accessing/modifying files at the same time (json files corruption etc).

The situation is better since around a year I guess, and I think there is  now a check that prevents two instances of the executable to run, but it still sometimes takes 1 minute to fully stop on our "big" server.

So my upgrade routine is quite simple:

1) Stop smartermail via the service manager
2) Monitor the mailservice.exe proccess with task manager and wait that it disappear.
3) Start Upgrade
4) Done

It never failed an upgrade, well unless when there was an issue with the new build though.

Stopping IIS website, application pool (not used anymore I think as now IIS is only a reverse proxy to SM's own web service), restart server are quite never required.

Sébastien Riccio
System & Network Admin

Rod Strumbel Replied
Ran same installations at home on 2025 server (freebie edition of SM) and at the office on 2016 server (Enterprise edition).  At the office installed in like 10 minutes. My home server took nearly 2 hours.  Home server is a full HyperV 2025 setup plenty of memory and CPU allocated.  I concur... 2025 server is an issue.

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