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Need a better way to report bugs...
Idea shared by Neal Culiner - 2/15/2016 at 12:22 PM
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The quality of ST products suffer because quite frankly it's too hard to file bugs.  We can either open a support case, should you have one, but I don't need to file support cases, I just want to report bugs!  And there are many!  Then there is this community which seems to be willfully neglected because companies thing communities are peer only so how can I, a developer, help improve the ST products I use?
 
Here's an example of a stupid bug - I create an appointment with a reminder in the webmail system of SM 14.x.  I later delete that appointment yet I still get reminder(s) - yes sometimes multiple for one appointment.  So there is a bug where when deleting a calendar appointment the associated reminders generated are not removed.  I click dismiss yet I get them again.  There's a chain of bugs.  But I can't seem to find a good method to communicate the bugs so they can actually get fixed.
 
Put up barriers and poor communications and we all lose.

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I love how cPanel handles this...
 
Their change logs give the tracking number and description of every change that is made in a way you can cross reference
 
This allows me to know when an item I submitted is formally addressed
 
Currently we have no formal way and have to hope an ST employee marks one of the possible many related posts as completed, etc
 
As ST is focused on using their tools the way these are handled will only get better as their products suite/tools get better and thats if they deem enriching them for bug reporting is worth it.
 
It's been mentioned they have an internal tool for tracking things but none of that sees the light of day.
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Unfortunately when you block your customers from reporting bugs by putting up a community and claim it's peer to peer or require paid support to effectively communicate it just stifles your users from helping you make the product better.  Peer to peer communities are a total copout, sorry, it's your company, your products, read and respond.  Fortunately they do here from time to time so I do give them that credit.  But they should add staff to engage users in this community effectively and lift relevant cases to their internal bug tracker as they deem necessary.  In the end we suffer by this failed communication, look at the Mac Contacts app issue we've been enduring for years because NO ONE reported it!  Or we keep getting the nonsense about it's coming in vNext time after time!
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Neal, I could not have said that better. BTW, doesn't ST publish online helpdesk software? Wouldn't this perhaps be useful for ST to use for SM installers/consultants/admins?
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Based on my Jan 28 bug report experience for the Mac Contacts I'd say their ST isn't working so well. I use a competitor system, it works great. Now I'm waiting to see how long I get a reply to the activity I got when asking will I ever get a reply and the sad fact they didn't test the originally provided information properly. I reported an issue clearly on Mac and they tested on Windows. Sad! I don't have much experience with their support because I'm shunned from using it, now I want to solve massive data corruption and the experience has been unbelievably terrible.
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.. curious as to why you are "shunned from using" their support.
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Well, from what I know you only have X tickets to use? So I hesitate to use them unless it's serious and I know it's easily reproducible. Yeah yeah, I know they "credit it back" but I don't want to risk it - I'd rather hold on to my tickets for when I really really need them such as an emergency.
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I find that I never use all my tickets - their system is "effective" in that "we" behave just as you've described; tickets are hoarded until they lose their value entirely. Nonetheless they are not a bad deal for a moderate to serious problem, IMO. I would certainly use a support ticket for a problem such as you are describing; if you have used one in this case, I would certainly expect good support!

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